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In the UEA School of Law Podcast Series, our faculty staff and guests dissect pressing legal issues, share research, and offer diverse perspectives on law's ever-evolving landscape.

Whether you're a student, legal professional, or simply curious about the intersection of law and society, our podcasts provide a platform for engaging, informative, and inspiring dialogues. Join us as we navigate the complex world of law and justice, and subscribe to stay connected with our ongoing legal conversations and exploration of law in the United Kingdom and worldwide.

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    UEA School of Law Podcast Series - Series 1

    Rishi Gulati, Associate Professor in International Law and Barrister, is hosting a new podcast series focusing on hot topics in international and transnational law, as well as domestic law developments with transnational impact. Significant developments impacting the legal profession are also discussed from time to time. The podcasts are not only designed for a legal audience but also for the broader public using accessible language. They are also intended to be a teaching tool with the 50 or so minute episodes delving systematically on the issues discussed. Each episode invites a highly knowledgeable guest who can bring a unique perspective to the issue. A special attempt is made to include voices from all regions of the world. Series 1 has now wrapped up and has seven episodes. The first three episodes concern challenges faced by the International Criminal Court, WTO and UN Human Rights Treaty Bodies respectively. The fourth episode discusses the impact of AI on the legal profession, a highly topical issue given the rise of generative AI. The fifth episode discusses the UK’s new subsidy control regime and the Levelling Up agenda. The sixth episode discusses animal rights law, with the final episode in Series 1 dealing with AI and international law from a substantive perspective. Series 2 will return after a short break! You can subscribe to the podcast in various ways, including via SoundCloud and Spotify.

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E01 - Dr Mathew Nelson

    In the first episode of the UEA School of Law Podcast Series, Dr Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Matthew Nelson on the challenges faced by the International Criminal Court, including a discussion about the Ukraine war.

    Spotify:
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/66ZornU1ABz4YVYqgYxDRd?si=2ct1uctoQMS-iJ9eFOLVIA

    iTunes:
    https://podcasts.apple.com/cz/podcast/the-challenges-faced-by-the-international-criminal/id1689403451?i=1000614312849

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E02 - The challenges facing the World Trade Organization | Guest ‪Constantine Michalopoulos

    First released 14th March 2023

    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: Constantine Michalopoulos

    Spotify:
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/5GVfWACfdlmnOMyDjif21a?si=ghKDUI2JTsikbcvUO-T5QQ

    iTunes: 
    https://podcasts.apple.com/cz/podcast/the-challenges-facing-the-world-trade-organization/id1689403451?i=1000614312897

    In this episode Rishi Gulati is in conversation with ‪Constantine Michalopoulos on the World Trade Organisation (WTO) and developing countries, including challenges to the regime.

    Constantine Michalopoulos is a trade and development expert having worked in this area for more than 50 years. He has previously advised the WTO and the World Bank, and has written several books and articles of note.

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E03 | The challenges that UN treaty bodies face | Guest Dr Rosana Garciandia Garmendia

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: Dr Rosana Garciandia Garmendia

    Spotify:
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/2v4zerXHOCanVUFW8mt3aW?si=823B4MDbRueqcADCZRF35w

    iTunes:
    https://podcasts.apple.com/cz/podcast/the-challenges-that-un-treaty-bodies-face-guest/id1689403451?i=1000614312848

    In this episode, Dr Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Dr Rosana Garciandia Garmendia who is Lecturer in Public International Law at King's College London. The discussion focuses on the work of the various UN human rights treaty bodies, especially the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, the challenges treaty bodies face, and future prospects.

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E04 | CHAT GPT, BARD and their impact on the legal profession | Guest Prof John Swinson

    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: John Swinson

    iTunes:
    https://podcasts.apple.com/cz/podcast/chat-gpt-bard-and-their-impact-on-the-legal/id1689403451?i=1000614312869

    Spotify:
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/4469iqzRyFuoCi4s2qsVRh?si=0rW-ZWfFTXy0WkjSspaB0Q

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Professor John Swinson on the impact of AI on the legal profession and on legal education. Jon Swinson is based at the TC Beirne School of Law at the University of Queensland, and possesses qualifications in computer science and law. He has been a partner in a major law firm, and as an arbitrator for WIPO decided over 650 disputes regarding the ownership of domain names. 

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E05 | Is the UK’s Subsidy Control Act 2022 helping the Levelling Up agenda? | Professor Andreas Stephan

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: Professor Andreas Stephan

    Spotify:
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ES9r2YttV2LVkcuAtLeGW?si=ybseeI1-SeqZ8mcwe8dA-Q

    iTunes:
    https://podcasts.apple.com/cz/podcast/is-the-uks-subsidy-control-act-2022-helping-the/id1689403451?i=1000615733818

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Professor Andreas Stephan. Andreas Stephan is a Professor in Competition Law at the University of East Anglia Law School and a leading expert in the field. The discussion considers whether the UK’s Subsidy Control Act 2022 helps the Levelling Up agenda? Now that the rubber has hit the road post-Brexit, this is a highly timely discussion. In addition to the features of the new subsidy control regime in the UK, the conversation also touches on related issues, including the WTO regime, EU State Aid rules, as well as the US Inflation Reduction Act.

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E06 | Exploring Animal Rights Law | Guests: Dr Raffael Fasel and Dr Sean Butler

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: Dr Sean Butler

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Raffael Fasel and Sean Butler on the topic of animal rights. Raffael Fasel and Sean Butler co-founded the Cambridge Centre for Animal Rights Law. Their book Animal Rights Law (Hart, 2023) is the first text book on the issue in the world. The discussion traverses a range of topics, including current framework on animal protection, animal rights, legal personality, and the future of the field. This is a must listen for all those interested in this area.

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E08 | Artificial Intelligence and International Law | Guest: Professor Jaemin Lee

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: Professor Jaemin Lee

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Professor Jaemin Lee who is currently Professor of Law at Seoul National University.

    Professor Lee has previously worked for the Korean Ministry of Foreign Affairs as well as a law firm in Washington DC. Amongst other publications, he is the author of Artificial Intelligence and International Law (Brill, 2022). This podcast focuses on all aspects of artificial intelligence and international law, covering a range of issues including the risks AI creates, definitional issues, legal personality, liability, need for international regulatory responses, and importance of protecting the interests of developing countries.

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E09 | Opportunities and limitations in UK climate change litigation: The Boswell case

    Tyndall Centre PhD researcher Millie Prosser and Friends of The Earth Lawyer and PhD researcher Acland Bryant are joined by the renowned environmental lawyer David Wolfe KC and Norwich-based climate litigator Dr Andrew Boswell, to discuss their current case in the Court of Appeal. Their case challenges government decision-making on three large road infrastructure projects for failing to include a cumulative assessment of GHG emissions. Through the lens of this case the podcast considers the role and legitimacy of climate litigation in the UK, the significance of climate-related judicial review cases and citizen routes to scrutiny and accountability of government decision-making. Asking what climate litigation cases such as Andrew’s can achieve, directly or indirectly, within the UK’s current climate governance framework.

    With thanks to Andrew's whole legal team; Lewis Hadler and Matthew McFeeley from Richard Buxtons solicitors, Ben Mitchell and Peter Lockley of 11 King's Bench Walk chambers, and of course, David Wolfe, KC, from Matrix chambers.

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E10 | Launch of the Elgar Companion to the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Today's podcast is a recording of the launch of the Elgar Companion to the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law which took place on 14 December 2023. This volume is co-edited by Rishi Gulati, Thomas John and Ben Koehler. Hosted by Rishi Gulati, the session commences with the launch of this book by Ms Anna Joubin-Bret. Ms Joubin-Bret is the Secretary of the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law, and Director at the International Trade Law Division of the Office of Legal Affairs at the United Nations. The session also has remarks by the editors about the project, as well as from several contributors to this book.

    www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/the-elga…781803924533.html

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E11 | The Indo-Pacific: The history & current political climate of the Indo-Pacific with Dr. Hansong Li

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: Dr. Hansong Li

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Dr Hansong Li about the intellectual history of the Indo-Pacific, a concept that has gained much currency in recent times. Hansong Li is a political theorist and historian based at Harvard University and the Berlin-Potsdam Research Group - "International Rule of Law - Rise or Decline?". Dr Li has a BA from the University of Chicago, M.Phil from the University of Cambridge and did his PhD at Harvard. The conversation touches on the origins of the notion of the Indo-Pacific discussing the role of Karl Haushofer, as well as a focus on the modern incarnation of the term. The discussion also considers initiatives such as China’s Belt and Road Initiative, as well as the Quad which consists of the US, India, Japan and Australia.

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E12 | State Secession: With Dr Nikos Skoutaris and Dr Rishi Gulati

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: Dr Nikos Skoutaris

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Dr. Nikos Skoutaris on accommodating secession within the EU Constitutional Order. Dr. Skoutaris is an Associate Professor in European Union Law at the University of East Anglia, holding a PhD from the European University Institute. He has an extensive background, including roles as a Post-doctoral Fellow at the University of Tilburg, an Assistant Professor at Maastricht University, and a Senior Research Fellow at the London School of Economics. The conversation explores secession and its ties to the right to self-determination, the conditions under which secession might be allowed in international law, the domestic law prerequisites for secession, and, importantly, the scenarios in which the EU constitutional order might permit a seceding state's admission into the EU. For further insights, Nikos Skoutaris's paper on this topic can be accessed at papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?a…stract_id=4634365

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E13 | Presentation & Voice Tips for Law: Dr. Rishi Gulati and guest Kate Lister

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: Kate Lister

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with London-based singer and song-writer, voice coach, and yoga teacher, Kate Lister. Kate Lister is a graduate of the Guildhall School of Music and has been performing and recording professionally for over 20 years. She is also a voice Coach having worked in a range of individual and group settings. The discussion focuses on a variety of themes of relevance to all members of the legal profession and beyond, touching on presentation skills, tips on voice projection that can be readily implemented (including a discussion about gender stereotypes), connecting with an audience, and mindfulness.

    More information about Kate’s work is herehttps://www.misskatelister.com/

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E14 | Sports, Business Ethics, and Human Rights | Guest: William Rook

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: William Rook

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with guest William Rook who is Deputy Chief Executive & Chief Operating Officer at the Centre for Sport and Human Rights. William Rook is a lawyer and business and human rights expert having developed and lead initiatives to promote responsible business practices in emerging sectors around the world. The discussion focuses on the applicability of business and human rights principles to sports governance, impact of mega events on human rights, the role NGOs can play in enhancing human rights frameworks in sport, tips for establishing NGOs in the business and human rights sector, as well as ideas for interested individuals and students to get involved in the sports and human rights field.

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    UEA School of Law Research Podcast - S01 E15 | The ECtHR Decisions On Climate Change And Their Potential Impact On Corporations with Dr Dalia Palombo and Dr Rishi Gulati

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    Host: Dr. Rishi Gulati

    Guest: Dr Dalia Palombo

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Dr Dalia Palombo, discussing the landmark decisions of the European Court of Human Rights on climate change delivered in April 2024. The discussion focuses on the content of those decisions, their impact on states, and importantly, a significant part of the conversation relates to the potential impact of the decisions on litigation against corporations in domestic courts, including UK courts. Dalia Palombo is currently Assistant Professor in Human Rights Law at Tilburg Law School in the Netherlands. She has studied law at the University of Milan, Harvard Law School (LLM) and Maastricht Law School (PhD). A recent article that may be of special interest to listeners is Dalia’s article titled Business, Human Rights and Climate Change: The Gradual Expansion of the Duty of Care published in the Oxford Journal of Legal Studies.

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    UEA Law School Podcast Series | Earlham Lecture 2024: Professor Sarah Green

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    This special episode is a recording of the Earlham Lecture 2024, held at the University of East Anglia. This year's lecture is titled "Of Digital Assets and Sausages: Confessions of a Law Commissioner," and we are honoured to have Professor Sarah Green, the Law Commissioner for Commercial and Common Law, as our guest speaker.

    In this insightful lecture, Professor Green shares her reflections on her four years at the Commission. She delves into the intricate law-making process, highlighting the vital role of research, consultations, and policy development. Professor Green also discusses the Commission's recent work on the legal recognition of trade documents in electronic form and explores the complex legalities surrounding new digital assets such as cryptocurrency and NFTs, both as personal property and as means of payment.

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    The Future of International Investment Law: Dr Rishi Gulati and guest Professor M. Sornarajah

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Professor M Sornarajah on the future of international investment law. Professor Sornarajah LLB (Ceylon), LLM (Yale), LLM, PhD, LLD (London) is Emeritus Professor of Law at the National University of Singapore. He was CJ Koh Professor at the Faculty of Law of the National University of Singapore, the Tunku Abdul Rahman Professor of International Law at the University of Malaya at Kuala Lumpur, and the Head of the Law School of the University of Tasmania, Australia. He has held visiting positions at leading universities around the world, and published extensively in the areas of public international law and international investment law. Professor Sornarajah was the Director of the UNCTAD/WTO Programme on Investment Treaties, Pretoria and New Delhi. He has been arbitrator, counsel or expert in several investment arbitrations. The discussion commences by providing a background to international investment law, discusses structural problems faced by the regime, touches on reform possibilities, and looks to the future of the regime.

    Soundcloud:

    https://soundcloud.com/law-office-811551224/the-future-of-international-investment-law-dr-rishi-gulati-and-guest-professor-m-sornarajah

    iTunes:

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-future-of-international-investment-law-dr/id1689403451?i=1000677904611

    Spotify:

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/004c8DWuOTJGiAPOTywqwI

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    The launch of the Elgar Companion to UNIDROIT (Edward Elgar, 2024) co-edited by Ben Köhler, Rishi Gulati and Thomas John

    This podcast is a recording of the launch of the Elgar Companion to UNIDROIT (Edward Elgar, 2024) co-edited by Ben Köhler, Rishi Gulati and Thomas John. This is the third and final in the trilogy of books on the three key international institutions mandated to work on private international and international private law. The Elgar Companions to the HCCH and to UNCITRAL have already been published in 2020 and 2023 respectively. The Elgar Companion to UNIDROIT brings together a diverse selection of contributors from a variety of legal backgrounds to present the past, present and future prospects of UNIDROIT’s instruments. The book was launched by the President of UNIDROIT, Professor Dr. Maria Chiara Malaguti on 17 January 2025. The podcast also includes a presentation by Professor Dr. Dres. h.c. Herbert Kronke, who spoke on the topic of “UNIDROIT and the EU”.

    Soundcloud:

    https://soundcloud.com/law-office-811551224/double-standards-in-international-law-dr-rishi-gulati-and-and-guest-dr-patryk-labuda

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    Double Standards in International Law: Dr Rishi Gulati and and guest Dr. Patryk Labuda

    In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Dr Patryk Labuda on the topic of Double Standards in International Law. Patryk Labuda is presently Assistant professor of international law and international relations at the Central European University. Previously, he has been an assistant professor at the University of Amsterdam, and has held positions at the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, New York University School of Law, the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, University of Zurich, the Polish Academy of Sciences, and Free University of Berlin. The discussion focuses on what the phrase double standards in international law actually means, how double standards are manifested in contemporary practice, how double standards impact the credibility of international law, and what can be done about it.

    Soundcloud:

    https://soundcloud.com/law-office-811551224/double-standards-in-international-law-dr-rishi-gulati-and-and-guest-dr-patryk-labuda

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    The exercise of self-defence in outer space | Dr Rishi Gulati with guest Dr Chris O'Meara

    In this episode, Dr Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Dr Chris O'Meara about his article titled Self-defence in outer space: anti-satellite weapons and the jus ad bellum which is forthcoming in the Leiden Journal of International Law. Dr O'Meara is a Senior Lecturer in Law at the University of Exeter. He is an expert in conflict and security la, and holds a PhD in International Law and an LLM in International Law from University College London. Amongst other publications, he is the author of Necessity and Proportionality and the Right of Self-Defence in International Law (OUP, 2021) and his book The Right of Self-Defence in International Law is also to be published by OUP. The conversation provides a background to anti-satellite (ASAT) weapons, the circumstances in which self defence may be used in outer space in this context, and a future outlook of the regime.

    Soundcloud:

    https://soundcloud.com/law-office-811551224/the-exercise-of-self-defence-in-outer-space-dr-rishi-guati-with-guest-dr-chris-omeara

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    The Rise of International Commercial Courts: Dr Rishi Gulati and guest Professor Giesela Rühl

    In this episode, Dr Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Professor Giesela Rühl on the rise of international commercial courts. Professor Rühl has held the Chair of Civil Law, Civil Procedure, European Private and Private International Law, International Civil Procedure and Comparative Law at Humboldt-University of Berlin since 2020. She is the Secretary General of the European Association of Private International Law, and amongst other leading works, is the co-editor of New International Commercial Courts: A Comparative Perspective (Larcier-Intersentia, 2024). The conversation touches on defining international commercial courts, where have they been created, what are their features, how are these courts innovative, the challenges they face, and the future of international commercial courts.

    Soundcloud:

    https://soundcloud.com/law-office-811551224/the-rise-of-international-commercial-courts-dr-rishi-gulati-and-guest-professor-giesela-ruhl-on

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    Greenland, Self-Determination, and the Geopolitical Contest | Dr Rishi Gulati and Prof Maria Ackrén

    In this episode, Dr Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Professor Maria Ackrén on Greenland, self-determination, and the geopolitical contest in this context. Maria Ackrén is Professor in Political Science at the Ilisimatusarfik/University of Greenland, and the Head of Research at the Nasiffik-Centre for Foreign and Security Policy. She has a BA in Political Science from Mid-Sweden University Sundsvall, and undertook a MA and PhD from Åbo Akademi University in Turku, Finland. Amongst other areas, Professor Ackrén is an expert on Greenlandic and Arctic affairs. This is a highly timely discussion on the contemporary debate around Greenland’s aspiration’s for self-determination, as well as the geopolitical contest generated due to its rich resources.

    Soundcloud:

    https://soundcloud.com/law-office-811551224/greenland-self-determination-and-the-geopolitical-contest-dr-rishi-gulati-and-prof-maria-ackren

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    Climate Change Advisory Opinions: Insights from the ICJ and Beyond with Rishi Gulati and Rohan Nanthakumar

    In this episode, Dr Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Mr Rohan Nanthakumar about the Climate Change Advisory Opinions recently issued by various international courts, including the International Court of Justice. Rohan Nanthakumar is a public and international lawyer, and has been consulting counsel at Blue Ocean Law and served as a member of Vanuatu’s counsel team for the climate change advisory proceedings in the ICJ. He was also instructed in the climate advisory proceedings before the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea and the Inter-American Court of Human Rights. Rohan has an LLM from the University of Cambridge, has previously worked for the Australian and Victorian Governments, and is about to Join the Victorian Bar, Australia. The discussion focuses on the core takeaways from the various Advisory Opinions on Climate Change, especially the ICJ, compares and contrasts the various decisions, and importantly, considers the impact of the opinions, including on Climate Change Litigation before domestic courts. Rohan also gives very useful tips to students and other lawyers on how to get involved in work in this sphere.

    Soundcloud:

    https://soundcloud.com/law-office-811551224/climate-change-advisory-opinions-insights-from-the-icj-and-beyond-with-rishi-gulati-and-rohan-nanthakumar

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    International Law Conversations: A Discussion between Rishi Gulati and Gentian Zyberi

    In this episode, Dr Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Professor Gentian Zyberi on his experiences as an international lawyer who has effectively combined academic work and the practice of international law. In the next few episodes of this podcast series, one key theme is to learn from a diversity of lawyers as to the path they took, challenges confronted, and how they were tackled and overcome. The discussion not only touches on substantive legal issues of significance, but also on the personal stories of the lawyers who played a part in tackling them. This episode discusses various aspects of Professor Zyberi’s work who is currently Head of Department and Professor of International Law and Human Rights at the Norwegian Centre for Human Rights. He is a member of the Permanent Court of Arbitration, member of the Scientific Committee of the EU Fundamental Rights Agency, and President of the Albanian branch of the International Law Association. Previously, he has been a member of the UN Human Rights Committee, and has appeared as counsel before international courts and tribunals. Professor Zyberi holds a bachelor’s degree in law (Bcum laude) from Tirana University School of Law in Albania, and a Master’s and PhD degree from Utrecht University School of Law.

    Soundcloud:

    https://soundcloud.com/law-office-811551224/international-law-conversations-a-discussion-between-rishi-gulati-and-gentian-zyberi

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